10-09-2007, 11:24 PM
While browsing a Wiki article on:
"Historicity of Jesus"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
I came across this list of the earliest creeds...those that predate the texts where they are found -found in the decade or two after the crucifixion...likely from the Jerusalem Church.
Corinthians 15:3-4 "For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures."
John 4:2 "This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God"
Timothy 2:8 ""Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, this is my Gospel"
Romans 1:3-4 ""regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, and who through the spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord."
Timothy 3:16 "He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory," an early creedal hymn."
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Romans 1:3-4 is interesting...as an early comprehension of Jesus..it clearly indicates his human origins and only later declared Christ by his "resurrection".....this can argue against the trinitarian model.
Timothy 2:8 and 1:3-4 are even less supportive of later creedal formulations.
"Historicity of Jesus"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
I came across this list of the earliest creeds...those that predate the texts where they are found -found in the decade or two after the crucifixion...likely from the Jerusalem Church.
Corinthians 15:3-4 "For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures."
John 4:2 "This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God"
Timothy 2:8 ""Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, this is my Gospel"
Romans 1:3-4 ""regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, and who through the spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord."
Timothy 3:16 "He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory," an early creedal hymn."
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Romans 1:3-4 is interesting...as an early comprehension of Jesus..it clearly indicates his human origins and only later declared Christ by his "resurrection".....this can argue against the trinitarian model.
Timothy 2:8 and 1:3-4 are even less supportive of later creedal formulations.